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. >> in the next debate and the vice presidential debate, when mitt romney or paul ryan is saying something that is not true. they need to call it out. that is not true. you do have a $5 trillion tax cut in your plans. you're not going to cover people's pre-existing conditions in your healthcare plan. you need to say it then and not rely on fax checkers the next day. >> eliot: you can't wait for the story the next day. ryan zerlina is right. you cannot depend upon that. how does the president need to do that,e vince this power and passion and sense of purpose that so clearly was missing. >> i think people want to see that he wants the job. that he wants to fight for them. if you look at it this way if somebody is looking at somebody who won't even stand up for themselves, then what are the chances they're thinking that this person is going to stand up for me? when you're watching obama in this debate you can finally see why it is that he was getting rolled day in and day out by the republicans on capitol hill. you can say hey man that is a guy i would like to be negotiating with. >> eliot:
. >> in the next debate and the vice presidential debate, when mitt romney or paul ryan is saying something that is not true. they need to call it out. that is not true. you do have a $5 trillion tax cut in your plans. you're not going to cover people's pre-existing conditions in your healthcare plan. you need to say it then and not rely on fax checkers the next day. >> eliot: you can't wait for the story the next day. ryan zerlina is right. you cannot depend upon that. how does the...
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of medicaid. >> romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children by an additional $2,000 a year. >> don't tell me what you value. show me your budget and i'll tell you what the value. >>> vice president biden will have some serious things to say this thursday. joining me is steve carnaci, co-host of "the cycle. he's writing in "salon" today about paul ryan's thing skin. thanks for coming on the show. >> thanks for having me. is he ready for joe biden? >> it's an open question. one thing we found is he hasn't been ready forred kind of scrutiny that comes with a national spot light. there have been several interviews, in what we all assumed would be friendly turf fox news where at the slightest bit of scrutiny on follow-up questions he's gotten very testy and evasive. you can think of early on back in august in an interview, how long it would take mitt romney's budget to be balance. he said i don't want to be all wonky on you, but i don't know. and chris wallace started grilling him, a promise it will be deficit neutral and very vague p
of medicaid. >> romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children by an additional $2,000 a year. >> don't tell me what you value. show me your budget and i'll tell you what the value. >>> vice president biden will have some serious things to say this thursday. joining me is steve carnaci, co-host of "the cycle. he's writing in "salon" today about paul ryan's thing skin. thanks for coming on the show. >>...
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if romney can do it, surely they've taught paul ryan how to do it. to swaf away from his arch conservatism. >> this huge swerve that he's got to make. here's the problem. if the vice president is properly prepped for this debate, he's going to remind people of the points in paul ryan's belief system that actually discuss the idea of cruelty. the problem is him being a slick, good looking kid is going to be too good, how does he explain it, it just doesn't sound cruel. he's boxed in on a policy front and he doesn't have the experience as a candidate to really sort of make the pivot that romney did. >> joy read and karen finney, thank you for joining me. >> thanks. >>> coming up, you've heard richard shift defend big bird. tonight, he will join me later. and in the rewrite tonight, another episode of the politics of religion. a crazy republican congressman says the bible tells us everything we need to know about public policy. so i guess he's in favor of the death penalty for adultery. we'll find out coming up. ll have knowledge to make an impact in yo
if romney can do it, surely they've taught paul ryan how to do it. to swaf away from his arch conservatism. >> this huge swerve that he's got to make. here's the problem. if the vice president is properly prepped for this debate, he's going to remind people of the points in paul ryan's belief system that actually discuss the idea of cruelty. the problem is him being a slick, good looking kid is going to be too good, how does he explain it, it just doesn't sound cruel. he's boxed in on a...
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>> the title has three meanings, but we get stuck on one, thanks to mitt romney and paul ryan. why does it happen that 90% of identified republicans according to the gallup poll are white in a country that is now 62% non- hispanic white? looking at this house some moved away towards the democratic party, and what -- looking at how some moved away towards the democratic party. they were very good at taking some of the chaos of the 1960's, using it against the democrats, and convincing these middle- class people that government had been identified with the interests of minorities and the poor and was not working for them anymore and luring them over to become the republican base. that title gets a lot of attention, because we have seen such a rationalized -- such a campaign, particularly as mitt romney and paul ryan use welface that is -- use a version of welfare that is blackface. it may not be working for them. tavis: the subtitle is no less provocative. "why we long for a golden age that never was." a majority of americans that believe our best days are behind us. there are ma
>> the title has three meanings, but we get stuck on one, thanks to mitt romney and paul ryan. why does it happen that 90% of identified republicans according to the gallup poll are white in a country that is now 62% non- hispanic white? looking at this house some moved away towards the democratic party, and what -- looking at how some moved away towards the democratic party. they were very good at taking some of the chaos of the 1960's, using it against the democrats, and convincing...
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and ryan are talking about? and i think that's part of what the president needs to be doing. i think it's what the campaign is doing here in this ad is to say, if you're going to make this cut, let's talk about the reality of what that's going to mean for people. you want to, you know, go invade iran, okay. are we all ready to see more caskets coming into dover, delaware? are we really ready to send men and women in uniform to another front in the war? you're going to make all of these cuts and how is that going to add up? it's not going to add up. here are the places where those cuts are going to have to come from. i think bringing it back to real terms, because, again, i think romney won't have the answer essentially. david is right. he has 9 top line -- >> i don't agree with you. romney's answer is very clear, ask me on the 7th of november. >> his answer is always no, it's not. >> exactly. >> because i said to. >> karen, david, and richard, thank you both. thank you all. next, paul ryan can't stand the heat a
and ryan are talking about? and i think that's part of what the president needs to be doing. i think it's what the campaign is doing here in this ad is to say, if you're going to make this cut, let's talk about the reality of what that's going to mean for people. you want to, you know, go invade iran, okay. are we all ready to see more caskets coming into dover, delaware? are we really ready to send men and women in uniform to another front in the war? you're going to make all of these cuts and...
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biden has to find a way to put romney on the spot, not ryan on the spot. >> andrew sullivan has a new article on the daily beast website called "did president obama just throw the entire election away?" and he writes in part, "i've never seen a candidate self-destruct for no external reason this late in the campaign before. i'm trying to see a silver lining, but when a president self-imlates on live tv and his opponent shines with lies and smiles and a record number of people watch, it's hard to see how a president and his party recover." professor, forget the debates, how does president obama and the campaign move on to win from here? because we're seeing such a tightening of the polling across the country, certainly in battleground states as well. >> well, the easy job for any incumbent is to say look at the good things i've done and look at the bad things you've promised, but they also have to explain why they haven't done more good things, why the glass is only half full. and obama has a case, if he wants to make it, which is that slowly but surely, step by step, brick by brick, w
biden has to find a way to put romney on the spot, not ryan on the spot. >> andrew sullivan has a new article on the daily beast website called "did president obama just throw the entire election away?" and he writes in part, "i've never seen a candidate self-destruct for no external reason this late in the campaign before. i'm trying to see a silver lining, but when a president self-imlates on live tv and his opponent shines with lies and smiles and a record number of...
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he needs to step up. >> after mitt romney's huge victory in the first debate, if paul ryan were to win this debate, it's a huge feeling of momentum for them. >> greta: panel, thank you. coming up, president obama and governor romney, move over. another high-profile debate is grabbing the headlines. who is rumbling now? you'll see the fireworks. that's next. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven's home security gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! how does this thinwork? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% casback on every purche, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great businesses deserve the most rewards! [ male announcer ] the ark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? here's your invoice. [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at united
he needs to step up. >> after mitt romney's huge victory in the first debate, if paul ryan were to win this debate, it's a huge feeling of momentum for them. >> greta: panel, thank you. coming up, president obama and governor romney, move over. another high-profile debate is grabbing the headlines. who is rumbling now? you'll see the fireworks. that's next. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven's home security gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! how...
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quite the generational gap that the romney campaign hopes to overcome by having ryan practice with 72-year-old olson. we're beginning to ron mott, and he's traveling with congressman ryan in florida. what kind of scoop did you get to the strategy? >> reporter: good day to you. paul ryan came down here to st. petersburg, but he's holed up in a hotel getting ready for the biggest 90-minute stretch of his political life on thursday night against vice president biden. both sides have played the lower expectations game. the romney/ryan team has said for weeks joe biden is one of the best debaters in washington, 40 years on the hill. obviously, he knows key policy issues like the judiciary and foreign relations with his time in the senate. he's been preparing paul ryan with former u.s. solicitor-general ted olson. they're going through a mock debate session and policy briefings. tomorrow he goes up to danville, kentucky. he has been ready for this and trying to remain relaxed over the past few days. took his kids out to a pumpkin patch and some reporters asked about the debate. oh, yeah, i
quite the generational gap that the romney campaign hopes to overcome by having ryan practice with 72-year-old olson. we're beginning to ron mott, and he's traveling with congressman ryan in florida. what kind of scoop did you get to the strategy? >> reporter: good day to you. paul ryan came down here to st. petersburg, but he's holed up in a hotel getting ready for the biggest 90-minute stretch of his political life on thursday night against vice president biden. both sides have played...
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he covers romney and ryan on a day-to-day basis. i guess maybe he was a little bit lowering expectations, although the pressure is certainly going to be on paul ryan in that thursday night debate against joe biden, jim. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. and i think you heard mitt romney say just before that clip that joe biden has been in a whole number of debates. in excess of, i think, a dozen. i think he's had 15 to 18 debates over the years, and then went ton to say paul ryan, that may be his first debate. i'm not sure. we would have to go back and check, but i would be amazed if paul ryan had not done any debates during his congressional years over there in congress. and just to pick up on what you're talking about just before the break a few minutes ago, about those loopholes and deductions, wolf. i can tell you that i think that your interview there made some news on that front, because what we've heard mitt romney say that he would help, that he would pay for those tax cuts in part through what he called a, quote, additional
he covers romney and ryan on a day-to-day basis. i guess maybe he was a little bit lowering expectations, although the pressure is certainly going to be on paul ryan in that thursday night debate against joe biden, jim. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. and i think you heard mitt romney say just before that clip that joe biden has been in a whole number of debates. in excess of, i think, a dozen. i think he's had 15 to 18 debates over the years, and then went ton to say paul ryan, that may...
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asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which deductions you two are going to close. he can confront him on the $716 billion that he also likewise cuts from medicare. >> identical number. >> identical number. that's a wonderful thing to be teed up for vice president biden, and he can also just come at him on the issue of entitlements generally. paul ryan is somebody who apparently saved the survivor benefits that he got from social security, used them to go to a good college, and now has been a long-time advocate of privatizing social security. >> i just wish joe biden would at some point ask the question, why do you right wingers think the way to get rich people to work harder is to give them more money and the way to get poor people to work ha
asked mitt romney about are even better for ryan. it was paul ryan who was confronted with chris wallace asking him about the math of the budget plan, was the one who said i just don't have time to get into that. joe biden can say, i'd like to give you all the time you need, take all the time you need, congressman ryan, and tell us which deductions you two are going to close. he can confront him on the $716 billion that he also likewise cuts from medicare. >> identical number. >>...
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does paul ryan defend his original budget and medicare proposals in contrast to what governor romney is now proposing? >> well, what matters now is, what is governor romney's plan going forward and paul ryan has signed up for the romney plan. specifically with respect to the sequester, governor romney is opposed to it. in fact, when that was decided last summer governor romney issued a statement specifically mentions the prospect of some devastating cuts to our national defense budget should sequestration become necessary. so the governor has made it a priority to reverse the obama defense cuts. it's not just the $500 billion that will happen as a result of sequestratio sequestration, another $500 billion in the works. the president's defense secretary has said the combination of the obama defense cuts with sequestration will be devastating to our military. it will further weaken our standings in the world and embolden our adversaries. >> what about benghazi? do you think that is a legitimate issue for this campaign? do you think the president should be held responsible for what happ
does paul ryan defend his original budget and medicare proposals in contrast to what governor romney is now proposing? >> well, what matters now is, what is governor romney's plan going forward and paul ryan has signed up for the romney plan. specifically with respect to the sequester, governor romney is opposed to it. in fact, when that was decided last summer governor romney issued a statement specifically mentions the prospect of some devastating cuts to our national defense budget...
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in order to cut taxes for the wealthy, the romney/ryan budget would make it tougher on hard working americans. >> that was the democratic national convention last month. campbell and her group will be kicking off another leg of their anti-poverty tour. this take making stops in ohio. meanwhile, mitt romney still can't give a straight answer on exactly what his tax plan is for the the wealthy. romney campaigned on giving the mega rich a tax cut. his website backs him up. yet at the debate, romney claimed the opposite. >> first of all, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. let me repeat what i said. i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. >> analysis from the nonpartisan tax policy center found romney's plan would cost the country $5 trillion over the the next ten years. romney's friends at fox news say romney doesn't have to explain his fuzzy math. here's chris wallace defending romney's flip-flop to governor martin o'malley. >> the president keeps saying that mitt romney is proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not true. >> chris, wait a minute here. former governor is proposing a cut to i
in order to cut taxes for the wealthy, the romney/ryan budget would make it tougher on hard working americans. >> that was the democratic national convention last month. campbell and her group will be kicking off another leg of their anti-poverty tour. this take making stops in ohio. meanwhile, mitt romney still can't give a straight answer on exactly what his tax plan is for the the wealthy. romney campaigned on giving the mega rich a tax cut. his website backs him up. yet at the debate,...
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he needs to step up. >> after mitt romney's huge victory in the first debate, if paul ryan were to win this debate twould create a huge feeling of momentum for them. >> panel, thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, president obama and governor romney, move over, another high-profile debate is isn't -- is in the headlines. that's next. hey kev, how about a bike ride? huh? you're not my dad ahhhhh!!! hey honey, back feels better, little dancing tonight, you and me? hey boy, you wanna go for a walk? dr. scholl's pro inserts with shock guard technology relieve different types of lower body pain by treating at the source so you're a whole new you. where is everybody? that's not your dad. go pro with dr. scholl's. >> greta: 11:00 is almost here, it's time for last call, brace yourself, bill o'reilly and jon stewart facing off. >> president first year, deficit. he held the deficit steady. how much debt has the president run up? >> $6 trillion. >> very good. $6 trillion. >> yes. and let me ask you this. what is... is that -- is that all bush's fault? >> no. what is the debt bush ran up? >> bus
he needs to step up. >> after mitt romney's huge victory in the first debate, if paul ryan were to win this debate twould create a huge feeling of momentum for them. >> panel, thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, president obama and governor romney, move over, another high-profile debate is isn't -- is in the headlines. that's next. hey kev, how about a bike ride? huh? you're not my dad ahhhhh!!! hey honey, back feels better, little dancing tonight, you and me? hey...
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whether there is a different mitt romney to really carry the fight. >> warner: susan, what do the romney-ryan team think it has to do with vice president biden to try to keep the momentum going? >> well... arner: and not become a target of all these questions about the ryan plan. >> you know, a debate where people said that republicans won, that would be great news for the romney team trying to build on this progress that they made since the last debate. because of course as andy knows better than anyone, findings that go your way quickly can go away quickly. it indicates a race in some flux. i think specifically they're going to want to be in a position to defend the attacks they know are coming especially on the issues of medicare and domestic spending because you can tie paul ryan to the paul ryan budget plan that has some things that will be controversial with voters including voters in swing states. >> warner: a quick final thought from you. to what degree to vice presidential debates shift the momentum of any campaign. >> hardly much at all. the famous debate we think about is benson an
whether there is a different mitt romney to really carry the fight. >> warner: susan, what do the romney-ryan team think it has to do with vice president biden to try to keep the momentum going? >> well... arner: and not become a target of all these questions about the ryan plan. >> you know, a debate where people said that republicans won, that would be great news for the romney team trying to build on this progress that they made since the last debate. because of course as...
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after supporting romney and ryan another celeb has a message for hollywood. >> quarter pounder, chicken? no? >> quarter pounder. look at this. look at this. quarter pounder. >> you know we all know campaign karl. he is on the pain with rit romney. mitt romney trying to convince romney to eat the burger. he is panning out burgers. lots of photographers you heard clicking. welcome back to pox and friends first. >> it is time for your 5@that5:. a colorado girl who has been missing since walking to school has been expanded to missouri. they share a home together and that then shared by police. the 10-year-old father is not a person of interest. he reportedly has a history of violence. it has been expanded in colorado surrounding her home town and where her backpack was found. >> they are giving parents a hand replacing the infamous hooks he got after a botched atta attack to rage jihad in afghanistan. the cost up to 5,000 dollars so he can clean himself in the slammer. the metal hooks were removed last week after he was extradited in the cushing. since they are considered a security risk he
after supporting romney and ryan another celeb has a message for hollywood. >> quarter pounder, chicken? no? >> quarter pounder. look at this. look at this. quarter pounder. >> you know we all know campaign karl. he is on the pain with rit romney. mitt romney trying to convince romney to eat the burger. he is panning out burgers. lots of photographers you heard clicking. welcome back to pox and friends first. >> it is time for your 5@that5:. a colorado girl who has been...
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because the poll advertise that romney/ryan would put in place would be really detrimental. they are the party of todd akin and the legitimate rape natural body rejection -- it's absurd. >> stephanie: yeah, again, i read the polling earlier, a lot of it is a little bit all over the place. clearly it is tight and the debate did not help, but this is one they are talking about party id, because it is out of whack with all of the other ones. >> yeah i do think what happened was maybe they went in and polled a bunch of people in the days after the debate and the new jobs numbers came out and that pushes it back into the president's favor a little bit. we have so many polls, and it's really difficult day-to-day to tell what is the most trustworthy, and what isn't. and if you take a look at some of the swing state polls, and where the president is consistently leading and demographics, it just doesn't seem like this one poll -- it just doesn't make sense. >> stephanie: do you think the president is going to have a chance to correct all of these -- there's no other way to say it --
because the poll advertise that romney/ryan would put in place would be really detrimental. they are the party of todd akin and the legitimate rape natural body rejection -- it's absurd. >> stephanie: yeah, again, i read the polling earlier, a lot of it is a little bit all over the place. clearly it is tight and the debate did not help, but this is one they are talking about party id, because it is out of whack with all of the other ones. >> yeah i do think what happened was maybe...
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, but also between paul ryan and mitt romney. he knows a lot about paul ryan on medicare, social security and also i was told, foreign policy. he will try to talk about that. >> it's interesting, john, you talk about the generational divide between these two but unlike the presidential debate where you had a former law professor and former ceo, these are two guys with blue collar backgrounds and have spent a lot of time out there campaigning. how noticeable do you think that's going to be? >> it takes one to know one. these are the two beer drinkers in this race. the president and governor romney, no insult intended, can seem a bit elite, detached sometimes. these are more blue collar guys. they're comfortable in an irish pub, in a vfw post. that's their job on the campaign trail, go out and get the working class voters who could be key especially in some of the idaho in west battleground states. stylistically, even though there's an age difference, they are somewhat alike, these two. and that's what's so interesting. liberals ar
, but also between paul ryan and mitt romney. he knows a lot about paul ryan on medicare, social security and also i was told, foreign policy. he will try to talk about that. >> it's interesting, john, you talk about the generational divide between these two but unlike the presidential debate where you had a former law professor and former ceo, these are two guys with blue collar backgrounds and have spent a lot of time out there campaigning. how noticeable do you think that's going to...
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. >> his running mate just dates before, paul ryan directly contradicted romney. ryan said lowering the tax rates was more important than anything else, including getting rid of those deductions to pay for them supposedly. let's watch. >> what's most important to romney, would he scale back on the 20% tax cut for the wealthy? would he scale back and say, okay, we're going to have to raise taxes for the middle class? i guess the question is what's most important to him in his tax reform plan -- >> keeping tax rates down. by lowering tax rates, people keep more of the next dollar they earn. >> that's more important -- >> that's more important than anything. >> in other words, it is, in fact, a tax cut. it's not an offset, a tax cutoff set by deductions. most importantly, it's to get the tax rates down from 35% to 38%. that's the goal he said. ron? >> romney said something interesting in the debate where he basically said nobody can say that my tax cut is going to add to the deficit if i say it won't. well, in fact, everybody who has looked at the plan says it will a
. >> his running mate just dates before, paul ryan directly contradicted romney. ryan said lowering the tax rates was more important than anything else, including getting rid of those deductions to pay for them supposedly. let's watch. >> what's most important to romney, would he scale back on the 20% tax cut for the wealthy? would he scale back and say, okay, we're going to have to raise taxes for the middle class? i guess the question is what's most important to him in his tax...
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i think that this was a big win for romney. i think ryan will hammer it home. >> sean: they're going to sequester for six days biden? he can't come out in public? they're going to try to force his brain full of information? i just don't see that working. >> well, sean, maybe they take him off the trail for six days so he doesn't mess it up. >> sean: well, maybe mess it up -- >> there was no debate, they should still sequester him for six days. >> sean: probably for the rest of the campaign. you know, i want to go to your book for one second, because we don't have a lot of time tonight, but it's out in bookstores now. this has been something that a lot of conservatives have been concerned about. that is the growing influence and reliance on the united nations, worldwide taxes, which hillary mentioned just, what, two weeks ago, and that the very arguments for redistribution that we have in this country are going to be used to tax americans for the united nations or some global governance body. you say this is not a black helicopt
i think that this was a big win for romney. i think ryan will hammer it home. >> sean: they're going to sequester for six days biden? he can't come out in public? they're going to try to force his brain full of information? i just don't see that working. >> well, sean, maybe they take him off the trail for six days so he doesn't mess it up. >> sean: well, maybe mess it up -- >> there was no debate, they should still sequester him for six days. >> sean: probably for...